Comments on: The Lunar New Year: (1) We murder to dissect http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/ hopefully incisive and intellectual disquisitions on anime Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:02:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: “lelangiric” » [49] Presentation: The Problem With Reading http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-87912 “lelangiric” » [49] Presentation: The Problem With Reading Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:51:37 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-87912 [...] come across the ethical question of dissection as a recent pinnacle in the means of analysis. If I am not to analyze anything, to abide by the [...] [...] come across the ethical question of dissection as a recent pinnacle in the means of analysis. If I am not to analyze anything, to abide by the [...]

]]> By: Michael http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66696 Michael Thu, 01 May 2008 02:47:17 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66696 @korosora That is scary. @Lupus What makes you glad, makes you glad. If you watch anime for entertainment's sake, nothing will stop you from doing so. I certainly wouldn't, as I do that at times, too. @Nagato Things may also be seen that way. :P @smashingtofu I agree with you. Discussion fosters knowledge, and yes, it's all the better if people find meaning from these things. :) @korosora

That is scary.

@Lupus

What makes you glad, makes you glad. If you watch anime for entertainment’s sake, nothing will stop you from doing so. I certainly wouldn’t, as I do that at times, too.

@Nagato

Things may also be seen that way. :P

@smashingtofu

I agree with you. Discussion fosters knowledge, and yes, it’s all the better if people find meaning from these things. :)

]]> By: smashingtofu http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66663 smashingtofu Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:57:41 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66663 Death Note's original author's never intended for any deep meaning or symbolism and in reality if you look hard enough, the series is actually rather typical for a shonen ; and yet people around the world is talking about it as if it was the bible...or something! At the very least, the original author's appreciate any sort of discussion and in my personal opinion if one finds meaning or value to something then all the better! The only thing I'd discourage is letting the works own your lives... Death Note’s original author’s never intended for any deep meaning or symbolism and in reality if you look hard enough, the series is actually rather typical for a shonen ; and yet people around the world is talking about it as if it was the bible…or something! At the very least, the original author’s appreciate any sort of discussion and in my personal opinion if one finds meaning or value to something then all the better! The only thing I’d discourage is letting the works own your lives…

]]> By: Nagato http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66580 Nagato Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:03:29 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66580 If our daily interpretations of anime could be considered 'murdering', then I'd have to say what you and Daniel do would be the equivalent of dropping a nuclear bomb. =p But, I wouldn't say that we've really murdered anything intellectually, whether we overanalyze or not - as long as we stay open to outside opinion. Since interpretations are always subjective, there's never really a right nor wrong. (Unless of course, the author or writer informs us of such.) You say that our intellectual homicide allows the phoenix of intelligence to rise even greater - I say that we never murdered anything in the first place. =D If our daily interpretations of anime could be considered ‘murdering’, then I’d have to say what you and Daniel do would be the equivalent of dropping a nuclear bomb. =p

But, I wouldn’t say that we’ve really murdered anything intellectually, whether we overanalyze or not - as long as we stay open to outside opinion. Since interpretations are always subjective, there’s never really a right nor wrong. (Unless of course, the author or writer informs us of such.)

You say that our intellectual homicide allows the phoenix of intelligence to rise even greater - I say that we never murdered anything in the first place. =D

]]> By: Lupus http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66576 Lupus Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:48:18 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66576 You know, I've always thought that way. Whenever you analyze a piece of fiction, you're in some way murdering your own joy in it. I prefer to let me feelings take the lead, and simply enjoy a show based on the emotions that it invokes in me. Does that make me dumb, or perhaps, shallw? Probably, but I find a lot more joy in that than painstakingly pulling a show apart to reveal its hidden meanings or to justify my like or dislike of it. It doesn't help that I'm not very good at that either. Of course, to each his own. If you derive joy or other forms of satisfaction from pulling a show apart, why not? It's probably the superior form of consumption too, since it actually produces things that other people can consume. Mean whilst, I'm going to watch and like Kanokon, even though it is the shallowest sort of show. You know, I’ve always thought that way. Whenever you analyze a piece of fiction, you’re in some way murdering your own joy in it. I prefer to let me feelings take the lead, and simply enjoy a show based on the emotions that it invokes in me.

Does that make me dumb, or perhaps, shallw? Probably, but I find a lot more joy in that than painstakingly pulling a show apart to reveal its hidden meanings or to justify my like or dislike of it. It doesn’t help that I’m not very good at that either.

Of course, to each his own. If you derive joy or other forms of satisfaction from pulling a show apart, why not? It’s probably the superior form of consumption too, since it actually produces things that other people can consume.

Mean whilst, I’m going to watch and like Kanokon, even though it is the shallowest sort of show.

]]> By: korosora http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66573 korosora Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:40:18 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66573 But hey, some turn out to be true. I loved following this guy's interpretation of Portal, and he eventually does find his analysis to be supported by the creators: http://www.game-ism.com/2008/04/04/still-alive-shes-free/ But hey, some turn out to be true.

I loved following this guy’s interpretation of Portal, and he eventually does find his analysis to be supported by the creators:
http://www.game-ism.com/2008/04/04/still-alive-shes-free/

]]> By: IcyStorm http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66570 IcyStorm Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:23:54 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66570 Because it's not what the content creator had in mind. Perhaps you may be taking stuff from anime that wasn't intentional or planned; kind of like <a href="http://www.farawaynowhere.com/blog/2008/02/08/cultural-literacy-part-3-application-to-anime-viewing/" rel="nofollow">this</a> Because it’s not what the content creator had in mind. Perhaps you may be taking stuff from anime that wasn’t intentional or planned; kind of like this

]]> By: Michael http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66542 Michael Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:10:36 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66542 @IKnight Not that we should prioritize what they want to say in any way, I'm pointing out that we change the anime a little every time we see it ... just that :) @RyanA Congratulations! :) The experience is what changes and the message thus changes also with every viewing of the anime. But even the authors sometimes overlook something from their own works. :) @IcyStorm Yeah. And that's the point. We somehow murder a show a little bit (or a lot) with our thoughts of it. But if that promotes intelligence, why not? @IKnight

Not that we should prioritize what they want to say in any way, I’m pointing out that we change the anime a little every time we see it … just that :)

@RyanA

Congratulations! :)

The experience is what changes and the message thus changes also with every viewing of the anime. But even the authors sometimes overlook something from their own works. :)

@IcyStorm

Yeah.

And that’s the point. We somehow murder a show a little bit (or a lot) with our thoughts of it. But if that promotes intelligence, why not?

]]> By: Ryan A http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66538 Ryan A Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:46:58 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66538 I'm hot for the way things rub me.... .... meaning, the experience; a matter less arguable because it is personal. If a writer isn't dead, it would be easier to ask about "hidden meaning". I'm not counting relations (symbolism, allegory, etc), which are usually a little more obvious and less subjective. OooOOo ^^ I finished the semester I’m hot for the way things rub me….

…. meaning, the experience; a matter less arguable because it is personal. If a writer isn’t dead, it would be easier to ask about “hidden meaning”. I’m not counting relations (symbolism, allegory, etc), which are usually a little more obvious and less subjective.

OooOOo ^^ I finished the semester

]]> By: IKnight http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66529 IKnight Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:56:33 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-1-we-murder-to-dissect/#comment-66529 I'm in a rush right now, so expect some more thoughtful response later (i.e. in a few weeks or never), but why should we care about the message the writers wanted to deliver? Is it somehow superior to all the other messages? I’m in a rush right now, so expect some more thoughtful response later (i.e. in a few weeks or never), but why should we care about the message the writers wanted to deliver? Is it somehow superior to all the other messages?

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