Comments on: The Lunar New Year: (3) Differences in anime and literature http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/ hopefully incisive and intellectual disquisitions on anime Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:14:49 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Volpeculus http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/comment-page-1/#comment-69785 Volpeculus Sun, 25 May 2008 06:13:46 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/#comment-69785 Where does manga fall in all this? I'd like to think it's a stopgap measure between literature and anime, but oh well... :P Where does manga fall in all this? I’d like to think it’s a stopgap measure between literature and anime, but oh well… :P

]]> By: Hige http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/comment-page-1/#comment-68045 Hige Mon, 12 May 2008 11:25:01 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/#comment-68045 Finding intellectual depth, for some, can be a form of entertainment. Ergo Proxy generally failed as a standard piece of entertainment, but I enjoyed being taxed by it so I felt entertained in that sense. I'd warn against thinking anime can't aspire to the heights of literature. Sure it's all spelled out for us in some respects, but I think any form of fiction has the potential to achieve great things. Literature just has the prestige to encourage those aspirations. Finding intellectual depth, for some, can be a form of entertainment. Ergo Proxy generally failed as a standard piece of entertainment, but I enjoyed being taxed by it so I felt entertained in that sense.

I’d warn against thinking anime can’t aspire to the heights of literature. Sure it’s all spelled out for us in some respects, but I think any form of fiction has the potential to achieve great things. Literature just has the prestige to encourage those aspirations.

]]> By: Michael http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/comment-page-1/#comment-66695 Michael Thu, 01 May 2008 02:42:54 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/#comment-66695 @Ryan I find that literature is more capable of the power of evocation and pathos. But I watch anime to enjoy, so I still watch it. :) @hayase YES, SHE IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUTE. I thought of that, too. Anime needs less effort than literature. @Lelangir I agree with you. @hikago I replied in that post of yours already, so I won't reproduce that here. :D @Ryan

I find that literature is more capable of the power of evocation and pathos. But I watch anime to enjoy, so I still watch it. :)

@hayase

YES, SHE IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUTE.

I thought of that, too. Anime needs less effort than literature.

@Lelangir

I agree with you.

@hikago

I replied in that post of yours already, so I won’t reproduce that here. :D

]]> By: ShortCircuited http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/comment-page-1/#comment-66682 ShortCircuited Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:39:52 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/#comment-66682 <strong>A light response on literature and anime as media....</strong> In response to a post by Mike of Anime|Otaku. ...... A light response on literature and anime as media….

In response to a post by Mike of Anime|Otaku.
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]]> By: Lelangir http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/comment-page-1/#comment-66679 Lelangir Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:05:40 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/#comment-66679 Well there are a lot of ways in which to compare different mediums but I'd focus on the creative/intellectual aspects as you were. So I think that there is quite a bit of "literature" that is created entirely for entertainment. What about those dime-a-dozen romance novels that feature some half naked viking on the front cover? Or, if you've ever seen those "worst case scenario" books. Sure, anime's primary function is probably to entertain but then there are those instances when that might not be necessarily true. God forbid I bring up the last episodes of eva... It also seems like "modern" anime (1970's?) is, without knowing any of its history, strictly a commodity, whereas literature is ancient and retains qualities you don't necessarily see in corporate capitalism. Well there are a lot of ways in which to compare different mediums but I’d focus on the creative/intellectual aspects as you were.

So I think that there is quite a bit of “literature” that is created entirely for entertainment. What about those dime-a-dozen romance novels that feature some half naked viking on the front cover? Or, if you’ve ever seen those “worst case scenario” books. Sure, anime’s primary function is probably to entertain but then there are those instances when that might not be necessarily true. God forbid I bring up the last episodes of eva…

It also seems like “modern” anime (1970’s?) is, without knowing any of its history, strictly a commodity, whereas literature is ancient and retains qualities you don’t necessarily see in corporate capitalism.

]]> By: hayase http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/comment-page-1/#comment-66643 hayase Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:37:19 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/#comment-66643 Hey! You left out Pino! Pino is cute! :D I looked at your HTML code, that mouse over is gonna be handy. =p Anyway, to me what makes literature more 'intellectual' must be the fact that it is the reader also needs to 'imagine' and understand what the author wrote. Anime, on the other hand, needs less effort on the part of the viewer simply because the image is already there. Hey! You left out Pino! Pino is cute! :D

I looked at your HTML code, that mouse over is gonna be handy. =p

Anyway, to me what makes literature more ‘intellectual’ must be the fact that it is the reader also needs to ‘imagine’ and understand what the author wrote. Anime, on the other hand, needs less effort on the part of the viewer simply because the image is already there.

]]> By: Ryan A http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/comment-page-1/#comment-66640 Ryan A Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:59:27 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/#comment-66640 Broadcast anime is definitely like this, underground anime, if it exists, may strive for a greater intellectual experience, though why not deliver the eye-candy? Would it take more effort to create less attractive characters? I think so. Perhaps just average. Toward the Terra had some attractive characters, but I found most of them average (at least the main ones), but the experience wasn't quite intellectual; ethical and dramatic, yes. This is the closest example I can find from my recent experiences, but even it does not match what literature is capable. The focus just isn't on "whats visible" in literature; the reader really makes the other half of the experience. ... play an anime and leave the room, it will continue, but stop reading a book, and it does nothing... Broadcast anime is definitely like this, underground anime, if it exists, may strive for a greater intellectual experience, though why not deliver the eye-candy? Would it take more effort to create less attractive characters? I think so.

Perhaps just average. Toward the Terra had some attractive characters, but I found most of them average (at least the main ones), but the experience wasn’t quite intellectual; ethical and dramatic, yes. This is the closest example I can find from my recent experiences, but even it does not match what literature is capable. The focus just isn’t on “whats visible” in literature; the reader really makes the other half of the experience.

… play an anime and leave the room, it will continue, but stop reading a book, and it does nothing…

]]> By: eipu http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/comment-page-1/#comment-66637 eipu Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:39:01 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/#comment-66637 I'd love to be your friend then ^^ i also think honey and clover is one of the best anime. I’d love to be your friend then ^^

i also think honey and clover is one of the best anime.

]]> By: Michael http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/comment-page-1/#comment-66630 Michael Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:44:31 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/#comment-66630 Honestly, I only give books, too. Honestly, I only give books, too.

]]> By: Baka-Raptor http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/comment-page-1/#comment-66627 Baka-Raptor Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:25:40 +0000 http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/04/the-lunar-new-year-3-differences-in-anime-and-literature/#comment-66627 Note to self: never accept a gift from Michael. Note to self: never accept a gift from Michael.

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