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		<title>By: mellowSPACE Blog &#187; Delicious Post &#187; Minami-ke &#124; Defining moment.</title>
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		<dc:creator>mellowSPACE Blog &#187; Delicious Post &#187; Minami-ke &#124; Defining moment.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my mind. Until it became a hilarious plot piece. Long live Mako&#8230; also long live Touma .. the reverse trap.    Published in Filler, Minami-ke, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Baka-Raptor

I think it&#039;s your kind of show, too.

@akurashy

Hi! :D

I&#039;ve no plans on courting her, and while I asked her e-mail she gave me an address that was non-existent. Perhaps I looked like a stalker, or something. I wanted to contact her to prove to her that I really used the interview for a post. Too bad. :(

@Barclay

HI! Thank you.

Yes, that&#039;s a good point. She was very likable as a person. 

@IKnight

I don&#039;t know. Maybe I was mistaken, but that was just a shallow observation of mine regarding academics.

@ferdino

wat

@Lelangir

Yeah, but you have to recognize that the trend of using women as primary characters and protagonists is notable (at least, compared to the male-dominated heroes of the 80s). It may be elevated for entertainment, but at least something good comes from it?

@Susie Q

Thanks.

I like the aim for fairness. At least society is going somewhere, I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Baka-Raptor</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s your kind of show, too.</p>
<p>@akurashy</p>
<p>Hi! <img src='http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve no plans on courting her, and while I asked her e-mail she gave me an address that was non-existent. Perhaps I looked like a stalker, or something. I wanted to contact her to prove to her that I really used the interview for a post. Too bad. <img src='http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Barclay</p>
<p>HI! Thank you.</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s a good point. She was very likable as a person. </p>
<p>@IKnight</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know. Maybe I was mistaken, but that was just a shallow observation of mine regarding academics.</p>
<p>@ferdino</p>
<p>wat</p>
<p>@Lelangir</p>
<p>Yeah, but you have to recognize that the trend of using women as primary characters and protagonists is notable (at least, compared to the male-dominated heroes of the 80s). It may be elevated for entertainment, but at least something good comes from it?</p>
<p>@Susie Q</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>I like the aim for fairness. At least society is going somewhere, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Lelangir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lelangir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then you&#039;d call it MNBA and WNBA. 

&quot;I think it is actually easier for men to look past gender (if they want to) because they don’t have to change anything about themselves, just how they see other people.&quot; Oh no - I disagree there. When we view gender as simply male vs. female we &lt;a href=&quot;http://lelangir.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/harima-kenji-and-the-plurality-of-masculinity/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;forget about strife between males&lt;/a&gt;. There&#039;s just as much struggle for power between men as there is between men and women. Maybe. 

Yes, women have to put up with double standards, but so do men. Once again, focusing simply on the oppression of women diverts attention away from feminized men - hence the &quot;plurality&quot; of masculinity: the fact that there is more than one type of man, just as there is more than one type of woman (to go with the flow of categorization etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then you&#8217;d call it MNBA and WNBA. </p>
<p>&#8220;I think it is actually easier for men to look past gender (if they want to) because they don’t have to change anything about themselves, just how they see other people.&#8221; Oh no &#8211; I disagree there. When we view gender as simply male vs. female we <a href="http://lelangir.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/harima-kenji-and-the-plurality-of-masculinity/" rel="nofollow">forget about strife between males</a>. There&#8217;s just as much struggle for power between men as there is between men and women. Maybe. </p>
<p>Yes, women have to put up with double standards, but so do men. Once again, focusing simply on the oppression of women diverts attention away from feminized men &#8211; hence the &#8220;plurality&#8221; of masculinity: the fact that there is more than one type of man, just as there is more than one type of woman (to go with the flow of categorization etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Susie Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susie Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael- interesting dicussion topic! I was going to say I&#039;ve seen a couple, but then I realized they were all traps but never reverse traps. I agree that having both represented in anime definitely is related to having equal social stature for the sexes- for example like how &quot;butler cafes&quot; as opposed to maid cafes are becoming popular these days b/c it&#039;s no longer only accepted/allowed for guys to like. before it was like, oh girls shouldn&#039;t be interested in that sort of thing, they should refuse male advances and especially not go looking for it!

@ Lelangir: Hmm I sort of agree about the wnba naming, but I&#039;m not sure how else they could make a separate women&#039;s group for that...but for the women novelists, are you asking &quot;why do we have to categorize them as &#039;women novelists&#039; instead of just novelists?&quot; I think it has to do with, it is harder for women to feel like &quot;just a person and gender doesn&#039;t matter&quot; because it is pretty much part of every interaction, however subtle. I think it is actually easier for men to look past gender (if they want to) because they don&#039;t have to change anything about themselves, just how they see other people. but women kind of have to continually reconcile the &quot;norm&quot; of society where the default is male, with themselves and how they are different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael- interesting dicussion topic! I was going to say I&#8217;ve seen a couple, but then I realized they were all traps but never reverse traps. I agree that having both represented in anime definitely is related to having equal social stature for the sexes- for example like how &#8220;butler cafes&#8221; as opposed to maid cafes are becoming popular these days b/c it&#8217;s no longer only accepted/allowed for guys to like. before it was like, oh girls shouldn&#8217;t be interested in that sort of thing, they should refuse male advances and especially not go looking for it!</p>
<p>@ Lelangir: Hmm I sort of agree about the wnba naming, but I&#8217;m not sure how else they could make a separate women&#8217;s group for that&#8230;but for the women novelists, are you asking &#8220;why do we have to categorize them as &#8216;women novelists&#8217; instead of just novelists?&#8221; I think it has to do with, it is harder for women to feel like &#8220;just a person and gender doesn&#8217;t matter&#8221; because it is pretty much part of every interaction, however subtle. I think it is actually easier for men to look past gender (if they want to) because they don&#8217;t have to change anything about themselves, just how they see other people. but women kind of have to continually reconcile the &#8220;norm&#8221; of society where the default is male, with themselves and how they are different.</p>
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		<title>By: Lelangir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lelangir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I believe the incidence of reverse traps in recent anime signals &lt;strong&gt;the shift from purely male-dominated anime&lt;/strong&gt; (Fist of the North Star comes to mind) to a more balanced treatment of men and women. I applaud the shift: I appreciate women who think and act for themselves; I don’t, however, like women who act like doormats (which is why I disliked Hot Gimmick). I could actually add more to this post, but that will have to come later as I still have a ton of academic requirements to fulfill. :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I disagree: &quot;reverse&quot; traps are only &quot;re&quot; in such that they&#039;re female? It&#039;s like the &quot;female novelist&quot; as opposed to the &quot;regular&quot; novelist who is a male - or WNBA as opposed to the NBA whose name is not gendered and signifies &quot;normalcy&quot;. As if the Women&#039;s National Basketball Association were some crazy mutant hybrid of the &quot;normal&quot; origin of basketball associations. English, while not having gendered articles is still gendered in different ways. I think all this trap business is on a pedestal rather than egalitarian. It&#039;s exoticized and elevated for entertainment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I believe the incidence of reverse traps in recent anime signals <strong>the shift from purely male-dominated anime</strong> (Fist of the North Star comes to mind) to a more balanced treatment of men and women. I applaud the shift: I appreciate women who think and act for themselves; I don’t, however, like women who act like doormats (which is why I disliked Hot Gimmick). I could actually add more to this post, but that will have to come later as I still have a ton of academic requirements to fulfill. <img src='http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p>I disagree: &#8220;reverse&#8221; traps are only &#8220;re&#8221; in such that they&#8217;re female? It&#8217;s like the &#8220;female novelist&#8221; as opposed to the &#8220;regular&#8221; novelist who is a male &#8211; or WNBA as opposed to the NBA whose name is not gendered and signifies &#8220;normalcy&#8221;. As if the Women&#8217;s National Basketball Association were some crazy mutant hybrid of the &#8220;normal&#8221; origin of basketball associations. English, while not having gendered articles is still gendered in different ways. I think all this trap business is on a pedestal rather than egalitarian. It&#8217;s exoticized and elevated for entertainment</p>
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		<title>By: ferdino</title>
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		<dc:creator>ferdino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IKnight</title>
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		<dc:creator>IKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;The Other Haruhi&#039; was a relatively normal and understandable person in a world of mad, rich people, and she looked suitably ornamental whichever way her clothes were gendered (for some reason I dislike the use of &#039;gender&#039; as a verb). Of course, it helped that &lt;em&gt;OHSHC&lt;/em&gt; was a fantastically witty show. I&#039;m not sure about dedication to study being a masculine trait, though: I&#039;ve no idea how this functions around the world, but in the UK at least girls tend to be more academic than boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The Other Haruhi&#8217; was a relatively normal and understandable person in a world of mad, rich people, and she looked suitably ornamental whichever way her clothes were gendered (for some reason I dislike the use of &#8216;gender&#8217; as a verb). Of course, it helped that <em>OHSHC</em> was a fantastically witty show. I&#8217;m not sure about dedication to study being a masculine trait, though: I&#8217;ve no idea how this functions around the world, but in the UK at least girls tend to be more academic than boys.</p>
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		<title>By: Barclay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barclay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting post

I&#039;ve never known anyone to actually deeply ponder the plight of the trap, I did know a guy who fapped to traps, but thats beside the point

also i think the allure of fujioka haruhi was that she was good as a guy or a girl. She was one of those characters that is immediately likable. I&#039;m guessing her dad being a trap helped that too :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting post</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never known anyone to actually deeply ponder the plight of the trap, I did know a guy who fapped to traps, but thats beside the point</p>
<p>also i think the allure of fujioka haruhi was that she was good as a guy or a girl. She was one of those characters that is immediately likable. I&#8217;m guessing her dad being a trap helped that too <img src='http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: akurashy</title>
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		<dc:creator>akurashy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really interesting, which left me thinking, why didn&#039;t you ask for her phone number too!?

Oh well! glad you enjoyed the convention, i&#039;ve never been in one since I don&#039;t really have interest in going to one :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting, which left me thinking, why didn&#8217;t you ask for her phone number too!?</p>
<p>Oh well! glad you enjoyed the convention, i&#8217;ve never been in one since I don&#8217;t really have interest in going to one <img src='http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Baka-Raptor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baka-Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to watch Fist of the North Star. Sounds like my kind of show.</description>
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