Code Geass R2 – 25: So is Lelouch dead or not?

Now, I didn’t originally think of this, but it made a lot of sense to me when I pieced the puzzle together with the help of /a/nons’ perceptions.


My take is that Lelouch is alive.

The most obvious reason would be CC calling to Lelouch in the closing scene of the episode. As we can assume CC to be still sane, she must be talking to someone, and that someone would most probably be the driver of the cart: Lelouch would have to be alive.

Second, however, and this is where the others have thought things through, Lelouch is alive because he got his dad’s code. He beckoned the World of C to lend him its powers, and he took Charles’s code before Charles passed on. The reason why Lelouch still has his Geass is because he didn’t take the Code from the same person who gave him his Geass: he took his Geass from CC, and he took his Code from Charles. Thus, he now possesses both immortality and a Geass. This is also a reason that the title is Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion.

To further corroborate this, however, remember that when Nunnally held Lelouch’s hand he transferred his memories to her. CC also did it when Lelouch touched her accidentally back then, so it could be assumed that people with Codes are indeliberate telepaths. This leaves us with both immortals traversing the world for the rest of eternity.

It’s a great end, friends. 🙂

P.S. Ending line of CC translated by bibi: “Geass is the power of kings, it will isolate you… well, I guess thats a little wrong… eh, Lelouch”

P.P.S. Additional evidence, courtesy of `Nergal and 4chan:

1. Charles grabbed Lelouch with his right hand, which had the Geass sigil.
2. Lelouch needed the fully evolved Geass to transfer a code.
3. The code doesn’t appear to activate until someone dies. Hence, why C.C. was wounded when she first inherited her code. Same happened with Charles in the World of C.
4. When Lelouch touched Nunnally, Nunnally got a flash of his memories. This ONLY happens when a high potential Geass user touches someone with the fully evolved Geass.
5. The title of the series is “R2”, which is similar to how “C.C” is pronounced. So Lelouch would be “R.R.” which is Engrish (I presume) for L.L., Lelouch Lamprouge.
6. When C.C. is talking on the wagon, she says “the power of Geass brings loneliness…that’s not quite right is it, Lelouch?” and nods her head in the direction of the wagon driver.

P.P.P.S More evidence, courtesy of an intelligent anon from 4chan:

Orange knew of Lelouche’s and Suzaku’s plan and helped them out by ordering his men not to fire on Zero, he even smiled when Zerozaku jumped on his shoulder.

Now would Orange, a man who devoted himself entirely to Lelouche and threw away everything without a second thought be OK with a plan where the sole person he wants to protect in life is actually killed? The answer to that is NO, not even if Lelouche ordered him to accept the plan: he would not go along with it and would protect him with his life. There is only one way that Orange would be OK with a plan like that and thats if he knew about Lelouche’s immortality, which I assume he did as he worked with V.V. in the Geass research base. Orange was OK with this plan as he knew Lelouche would come to no harm and would be able to start a new peaceful life with the woman he loves in a world which he himself had made peaceful.

Even at the end, we see Orange on his orange plantation, completely content with the way things have panned out, he definitely could not be that happy had Lelouche actually died.

There it is, firm evidence of Lelouche’s immortality if the scene with C.C. and the cart driver wasn’t painfully obvious enough.

(I corrected a few spelling errors and run-ons, but preserved the original thought. It’s also quite convincing, if you ask me.)

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1,375 Responses to “Code Geass R2 – 25: So is Lelouch dead or not?”

  1. Soliloquy Says:

    At first I thought he was dead, and with that damn ending song, oh my god I don’t cry at things, but since Lelouch is my favorite character ever I started tearing up. The song and his death went so well together. But reading though different scenarios, I really don’t think it’s either way.

    He’s alive, and he’s dead. The ending is open to interpretation. I like to believe now that he’s alive for the sake of my intense feelings at this anime haha. I think he is with C.C. and is going to live calmly for the rest of his eternity with her, unless they make an R3 haha.

    Yes he did say eternity to Suzaku but it doesn’t necessarily mean Suzaku is now imortal. You see no signs of Suzaku getting any geass powers at the end scene, and Suzaku’s eternity could mean for the rest of his mortal life, after all, that’s his eternity.

    Has anyone ever proven if that statement from the co-writer or something was real, and if it actually meant Lelouch had died?

    True, the zero requiem would be a moot point without his death, but I think since he works miracles, he lives on with C.C. I do like to believe he is driving the cart. That shot that just misses the cart driver’s face is way too suspicious not to be Lelouch.

    I just feel bad because Nunally won’t get to be with him anymore, or maybe she will, you never know!!

    ALSO…if he really is dead. He could have pulled something like his mother did, and is still alive in C’s world. OR someone could have a geass power to resurrect the dead. You see that shit all the time in anime!

    My verdict: Lelouch lives no matter what. I just wish they made a third season but it’s been so long!

  2. becca Says:

    Lelouch isn’t dead. in episode 25 when C.C is on top of the carriage and says “i said geass was the power of the king which would condemn -you- to a live of solitude… i think maybe that is not quite correct… right Lelouch?” *end*. what wasn’t shown was they deleted scene which is only in the original Japanese version where Lelouch is shown as the carriage driver smiling at what C.C said. they never showed this because they wanted the people who were watching it to make up there own ending, that is also why it was taken out of the Japanese version at a later time. i don’t know if they will make a season 3 but if they do Lelouch will most likely be in it with Suzaku taking his place as zero. there are to many clues for Lelouch to be dead including the R2 in the title, it was put there for a reason, maybe Lelouch will become like C2 and Z2… but with a different name.
    watch this video and you will know what i am talking about:
    http://www.youtube.comwatchv=gnhyzoq4mxo/

  3. Rini Says:

    This all makes perfect sense actually and I agree with everything. Nice job 😀

  4. icemaker Says:

    c’mon Lelouch is a fuking genius do you all realy think he made a plan that will kill him ?>…

  5. Shironochi Says:

    Lelouch is alive.. his code is in his right eye

  6. lanselot prankista Says:

    lelouch is alive cuz

    1.he got his fathers eyes
    2.there is a posibility that the ninja girl (friend of ROLO) wear his mask to disguise

  7. lanselot prankista Says:

    i think ther is no season 3 cuz
    1.the federation ,britania and whole world united
    2.the people know that lelouch is dead specially civilians

  8. Fanatiikon Says:

    Omfg Guys you have some real problems did you even watch this series.Lelouch screwd around with everyone and they didn’t know it was him and you don’t belive that Lelouch would actually think at this briliant plan omg SHAME ON YOU!

  9. Jewel Says:

    Okay, dafuq guys. Even if he had the Code, how would he possibly avoid a burial? He was the fcking Emperor of the entire world; he had to have a burial. It’s not like the world put him in the middle of the forest so he could return from the dead. Or I remember hearing that he was sent into the sun with the Damocles, in which he would have no way to regenerate.

    ALSO, if he was alive, it would take away the meaning of the show. Just think a little. Seriously.

  10. Jacyes Says:

    Lelouch is alived!!!! The official site just updated their characters.
    An new character which named Julius Kingsley is similiar to Lelouch (obviously he is Lelouch) and had the same seiyuu.
    http://www.geass.jp/akito/character.html

  11. ^_^ Says:

    good post, thankyou! =*^_^*=
    also read my comment on other page:
    http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/09/code-geass-r2-25-for-fans-of-the-cc-and-lelouch-pair-like-me/comment-page-3/#comment-320058

  12. lanselot prankista Says:

    lelouch is alive because the whole anime r1 and r2 was broadcasted here in the philippines and the last episode they showed that the driving the carriage is lelouch and the driver was able to smile

  13. 21inuyasha21 Says:

    This is a bit disappointing and all I would expect more from the writers, unless r3 is a filler for a 4th season. I was expecting a twist in the plot like always. Something more sutable would be this. Charles never did fully die because of the inherited powers. He somehow found a way to come back and finish what he started as a contractor. Lelouch would follow in suit. If no one notices by now it seems that C2 was talking to the dead all along. I would expect some plot where either he battles charles through c2 or actually comes back. Which i personally would like because it would allow sherly to come back as well as euphy. Charles would rebuild his army and proceed rebuilding the thought elevator or something that would destroy god. To be honest I thought the final time lelouch ran into charles in the elevator that C2 was going to appear there and lelouch would kill her and obtain her power then they would be trapped until they were somehow free from there and then the battle would continue. Either way the series should continue but with the stage would be both in gods relm and the world. And somehow every found out the reality behind what happened to lelouch. So it would seem to me that lelouch is dead but not dead as well. Hes in the relm of god the same kind of place when he went into c2’s head.

  14. tempus Says:

    “Lelouch is alived!!!! The official site just updated their characters.
    An new character which named Julius Kingsley is similiar to Lelouch (obviously he is Lelouch) and had the same seiyuu.
    http://www.geass.jp/akito/character.html

    Nope.

    If you even paid the slightest bit of attention, you would realize that this is taking place in “Akito the Exiled”.

    This story took place BETWEEN season 1 and season 2. During the time in which lelouch had no memories, before he conquered the world.

  15. tempus Says:

    @Soliloquy

    Uh..what? The rest of your life is eternity? That’s ridiculous. The rest of a mortals life is not equivalent to immortality. Subjectiveness has a limit dude.

    The shot doesn’t “just” miss the cart drivers face. It just showed that there was a cart driver, and not even showing him portrayed that he wasn’t important in the slightest. When has there EVER been a time in which a character in the background, who wasn’t highlighted or zoomed in on by the camera, EVER been important?

    “ALSO…if he really is dead. He could have pulled something like his mother did, and is still alive in C’s world. OR someone could have a geass power to resurrect the dead. You see that shit all the time in anime!”

    LOL. Talk about imposing your own story…lelouch’s mom lived in c’s world because of her power.

    @becca

    that video is fake. the laugh is taken from the zero requiem explanation scene in the final episode. And you know what? Even if it was real, that simply proves that lelouch is dead.

    If the creators took out the scene which he was shown to be alive, what does that mean? They changed their minds and killed him. Not that it made any sense for him to be alive in the first place.

  16. Lelouch Lamperouge Is Dead Says:

    Noob people , Lelouch dont have immortality , he just ask to stop the march of time to the god in C world and that grants him geass on his right eye. He was able to do that because Charles created C world that people are not equal.

  17. Lelouch is aliv Says:

    Leloch alive, there is a more straightforward explanation is: When I read the story to the part of http://vnsharing.net/forum/showthread.php?t=264320 codegeassr2 Code Geass Lelouch of the return of Vietnamese, Lelouch live shows, and Lelouch NUNALLY sister in a post office NUNALLY Geass revival, but do not stop looking into his eyes as Geass sense of ROLO time. The remaining part of the story you just read. END

  18. Lelouch is aliv Says:

    If Lelouch die, then I feel very sad, a main character to die like Lelouch, who is the main character, I ask you also to any other part of this cartoon, I just do not see the game story

  19. Anon Says:

    (inb4 but noo suzaku didn’t have the highest level of geass, LELOUCH VI BRITANNIA gave him the code, don’t question the man.)

    If that is true, then couldn’t CC have easily “given” away her code?

    I personally think Lelouch is alive, all the hints are there. If Lelouch did die, why is CC happy? She would still be living forever, all alone.

  20. Júlio Says:

    I found it very interesting their arguments
    but to be immortal Lelouch need the Code that supposedly he would have won the Father but that may be because of the location arredo
    The CC won the Code of frera and both have the code on his forehead
    Charles stole his brother and both were with the code on the left hand
    Where is the Code of Lelouch?

  21. SG Says:

    Lelouch is dead, If he were alive Nunnally would make him Zero so that he frees up Suzaku and her brother is close to her.
    Why would she leave him free? When Suzaku stabs him, she says she can’t live without her brother and Lelouch dies if he lives, he’d become zero,Suzaku is free.

    That’s the only fitting answer if he is alive,no riding bullock cart stuff.

  22. PeopleAreStupid Says:

    You people who argue that he’s dead need to rewatch the second season hell rewatch the first while you are at it. the guy that posted this is correct hes immortal before you argue this just watch it all over again. If you think hes alive your just stupid and if your respond to this your ignorant so if it makes you feel better about argueing that hes dead your just proving my point about you being Stupid.

  23. hes alive -_- Says:

    hes deffinetly alive i literally JUST finished watching season 2 for the second time just to clarify it. Lulu is alive and is probably always gonna be alive since he’s immortal people!

  24. ShaneB Says:

    It isn’t just the reason it is called “Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion”. It is also the reason the second entire series was named:

    “Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2” …. R2?

    Well we have C.C.’s name, which isn’t pronounced “C … C,” in fact it’s Shi Tsu, 2 different Japanese characters, meaning C2. V.V.? Vui tsu (V2). The Japanese title? Written as Aru tsu (R2). R2 would be R.R. following the same logic, which is the abbrevation of the Japanese Rurushu Ranperuji (Lelouch Lamperouge), his given birth name… And his new code name as an immortal.

    Yes, Lelouch Vi Britannia died. But Lelouch Lamperouge lived on as R.R., or R2, for eternity with the one woman who finally brought his life meaning and who’s wish was granted by now never again having to worry about an eternity of solitude and loneliness. And it even looks like the farm they might be heading to, or rather the orange orchard, is operated by his most reliable knight Jeremiah Gottwald, and the woman with his mother’s memories Anya.

    Oh, and the original contract?.. “The Power of the King will condemn you to a life of solitude.” Well then the story really does come full circle from season 1 episode 1, he lives on and him and C.C. are forced into solitude, never allowed to see the people they once knew.

  25. Vinh Says:

    Remember Lelouch had said that he had destroyed a world and created a new one in it’s place. Think about that. Like a phoenix, it will always arise from it’s ashes.

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