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		<title>By: Yuji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMPORTANT: There is a difference between what the episode wants you to think and the amount of ways a show can bring back a character. 

CC sheds a tear after she says &quot;Lelouch..  as atonement for controlling people with your Geass, you&#039;ve....&quot; 

Would she shed a tear if Lelouch was not giving up his life? Granted she could just not know... 
Would Lelouch even be atoning for anything if he didn&#039;t sacrifice himself? 



Random Comments:

- The united world won&#039;t last i&#039;d bet. The people who wanted power a year before Lelouch dies still want power now.

- CG has plenty of unexplained plot elements (what is geass) to bring back a character with revelations about an afterlife, souls, etc. 

- The Gods: Remember there are extremely vague gods presented in this show, who have an unknown impact on the world. We don&#039;t know what they do. Another season could bring them in, seeking revenge for being Geassed (people have broken free of the effects) or some other idea. 

I&#039;m always surprised that so many Anime do not commercialize the crap out of their shows. Many anime go on FOREVER, like our American TV shows that run 8 seasons, but so many do not. 

Every American TV show aims to be that 8 season long show, and if it can&#039;t be that, it&#039;s cancelled at 1 or 2 seasons. 

So many Anime are created as stand alone 1 season stories and never continued. I wish they would. 

Anyways, there should be financial incentive to keep these things going considering there is a fan base. Unless it&#039;s a show depicting real life, there is always a way to continue it by adding new fa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMPORTANT: There is a difference between what the episode wants you to think and the amount of ways a show can bring back a character. </p>
<p>CC sheds a tear after she says &#8220;Lelouch..  as atonement for controlling people with your Geass, you&#8217;ve&#8230;.&#8221; </p>
<p>Would she shed a tear if Lelouch was not giving up his life? Granted she could just not know&#8230;<br />
Would Lelouch even be atoning for anything if he didn&#8217;t sacrifice himself? </p>
<p>Random Comments:</p>
<p>- The united world won&#8217;t last i&#8217;d bet. The people who wanted power a year before Lelouch dies still want power now.</p>
<p>- CG has plenty of unexplained plot elements (what is geass) to bring back a character with revelations about an afterlife, souls, etc. </p>
<p>- The Gods: Remember there are extremely vague gods presented in this show, who have an unknown impact on the world. We don&#8217;t know what they do. Another season could bring them in, seeking revenge for being Geassed (people have broken free of the effects) or some other idea. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m always surprised that so many Anime do not commercialize the crap out of their shows. Many anime go on FOREVER, like our American TV shows that run 8 seasons, but so many do not. </p>
<p>Every American TV show aims to be that 8 season long show, and if it can&#8217;t be that, it&#8217;s cancelled at 1 or 2 seasons. </p>
<p>So many Anime are created as stand alone 1 season stories and never continued. I wish they would. </p>
<p>Anyways, there should be financial incentive to keep these things going considering there is a fan base. Unless it&#8217;s a show depicting real life, there is always a way to continue it by adding new fa</p>
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		<title>By: zongetsu</title>
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		<dc:creator>zongetsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what was damn good?  The book great expectations.  

The ending i thought was wide open as hell.  The two characters leave in the end together hand in hand.  However the author cleared it up by writing a small section about the future and how she met the guys kid.  So we knew they never got together.  Plain and simple

But when you get &quot;lelouch may have died(?), but geass will not and then a promo poster with him being alive...

he must be alive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what was damn good?  The book great expectations.  </p>
<p>The ending i thought was wide open as hell.  The two characters leave in the end together hand in hand.  However the author cleared it up by writing a small section about the future and how she met the guys kid.  So we knew they never got together.  Plain and simple</p>
<p>But when you get &#8220;lelouch may have died(?), but geass will not and then a promo poster with him being alive&#8230;</p>
<p>he must be alive</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been awhile. I recently wrote a letter to the Code Geass Director about the idea of creating a novel that would be based on his original ideas for Code Geass R2, where, in the original plot, Lelouch defeats Suzaku at the ruins near the thought elevator in Stage 25. 

There a rumors that there might be a third season in the works for Code Geass, but from 2ch. I would be very surprised if they did another Code Geass series that follows the current R2 version, since the staff did not like that experience at all. If they did, my initial speculation is as follows:

1. The series takes place from where R2 had left off in the near future with a different character(possibly Rai), which is a very strong possiblilty.

2. An alternate series that was based on the original plans for R2, but with a different storyline that would not overlap with the current R2 version. 

3. A prequel that would feature Charles, Marianne, and Bismark. 

Personally, I would rather see a novel created first so that the anime could follow that storyline. I never liked Zero&#039;s Requiem because I felt that it was nothing more than a generic plot to kill off the series, due the staff negative experience of producing the second season. It was on the assumption that the series would not get another season to being with after that. All of the initial plot to the second season fizzled out, one after the other due to problems caused by the executive staff over the changes of the plot to suit an audience who have largely aready seen the first season at late night. Thus the changes to suit this new audience was an insult to their intelligence. 

I my honest opinion, I feel that whatever was to have been the focal point of the second season wasn&#039;t Zero&#039;s Requiem. 

I doesn’t hurt to write to Taniguchi, Director of the series with your comments. Every bit helps. Here is the address if you want to write to the following:

Gorō Taniguchi: Director 
or 
Ichirō Ōkouchi: Screen Writer

Make sure you address their name as follows:

Gorō Taniguchi
c/o Sunrise Inc.
2-44-10 Kami-igusa
Suginami-ku
Tokyo, Japan 167-0023

Let me know of your thoughts about my opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been awhile. I recently wrote a letter to the Code Geass Director about the idea of creating a novel that would be based on his original ideas for Code Geass R2, where, in the original plot, Lelouch defeats Suzaku at the ruins near the thought elevator in Stage 25. </p>
<p>There a rumors that there might be a third season in the works for Code Geass, but from 2ch. I would be very surprised if they did another Code Geass series that follows the current R2 version, since the staff did not like that experience at all. If they did, my initial speculation is as follows:</p>
<p>1. The series takes place from where R2 had left off in the near future with a different character(possibly Rai), which is a very strong possiblilty.</p>
<p>2. An alternate series that was based on the original plans for R2, but with a different storyline that would not overlap with the current R2 version. </p>
<p>3. A prequel that would feature Charles, Marianne, and Bismark. </p>
<p>Personally, I would rather see a novel created first so that the anime could follow that storyline. I never liked Zero&#8217;s Requiem because I felt that it was nothing more than a generic plot to kill off the series, due the staff negative experience of producing the second season. It was on the assumption that the series would not get another season to being with after that. All of the initial plot to the second season fizzled out, one after the other due to problems caused by the executive staff over the changes of the plot to suit an audience who have largely aready seen the first season at late night. Thus the changes to suit this new audience was an insult to their intelligence. </p>
<p>I my honest opinion, I feel that whatever was to have been the focal point of the second season wasn&#8217;t Zero&#8217;s Requiem. </p>
<p>I doesn’t hurt to write to Taniguchi, Director of the series with your comments. Every bit helps. Here is the address if you want to write to the following:</p>
<p>Gorō Taniguchi: Director<br />
or<br />
Ichirō Ōkouchi: Screen Writer</p>
<p>Make sure you address their name as follows:</p>
<p>Gorō Taniguchi<br />
c/o Sunrise Inc.<br />
2-44-10 Kami-igusa<br />
Suginami-ku<br />
Tokyo, Japan 167-0023</p>
<p>Let me know of your thoughts about my opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: kayserispor</title>
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		<dc:creator>kayserispor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Besided, Tanguchi (the director/co-writer) says that the ending is open for interpretation and he didn’t comment on Lulu’s fate and said that it’s open for interpretation and Idk why people are giving Okouchi more credibility than Tanguchi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Besided, Tanguchi (the director/co-writer) says that the ending is open for interpretation and he didn’t comment on Lulu’s fate and said that it’s open for interpretation and Idk why people are giving Okouchi more credibility than Tanguchi.</p>
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		<title>By: yuri</title>
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		<dc:creator>yuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All HAIL SUZAKU!</description>
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		<title>By: CS</title>
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		<dc:creator>CS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got halfway through this warzone before getting fed up with &quot;Lulu dead ppl hater&quot;&#039;s claims that, if Lelouch was confirmed dead by his creator, they would have made it DEAD PLAIN OBVIOUS.

See, that&#039;s not always how writing and storytelling works. Dramatic effect, tension, etc. Just because some need their anvils dropped from the sky doesn&#039;t mean that that&#039;s the best way to create a world of characters.

Or, if you need me to make it DEAD PLAIN OBVIOUS (note the heavy snark here), something doesn&#039;t need to be obvious to be intended or canonically true. 


As for Lelouch&#039;s survival or lack thereof, consider that Okouchi gave us this story from a world he created in his heart/mind/whathaveyou. What&#039;s true for him is not necessarily true for anyone who has taken it into themselves. That does not, however, mean that it is anywhere near OK to bash him and claim that his thoughts are insignifigant. His Lelouch is dead, yours may not be. It&#039;s that simple.

-CS

P.S. The &#039;see through the hearts of people&#039; bit makes me want to dent a few walls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got halfway through this warzone before getting fed up with &#8220;Lulu dead ppl hater&#8221;&#8217;s claims that, if Lelouch was confirmed dead by his creator, they would have made it DEAD PLAIN OBVIOUS.</p>
<p>See, that&#8217;s not always how writing and storytelling works. Dramatic effect, tension, etc. Just because some need their anvils dropped from the sky doesn&#8217;t mean that that&#8217;s the best way to create a world of characters.</p>
<p>Or, if you need me to make it DEAD PLAIN OBVIOUS (note the heavy snark here), something doesn&#8217;t need to be obvious to be intended or canonically true. </p>
<p>As for Lelouch&#8217;s survival or lack thereof, consider that Okouchi gave us this story from a world he created in his heart/mind/whathaveyou. What&#8217;s true for him is not necessarily true for anyone who has taken it into themselves. That does not, however, mean that it is anywhere near OK to bash him and claim that his thoughts are insignifigant. His Lelouch is dead, yours may not be. It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
<p>-CS</p>
<p>P.S. The &#8217;see through the hearts of people&#8217; bit makes me want to dent a few walls.</p>
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		<title>By: bacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lolzzzz!!!

#1 taniguichi is the genius behind series, he nvr confirmed it
#2 the people who played the cast i cant blame em, but if ur gonna take the word of the fuck ass holes who screwed tanigiuchi&#039;s vision and even f***** up R2 then all yall haters nvr truly got the show

ps i think taniguichi did this to redeem the rushed ending making this an ambigous ending that if no further plans come
YOU choose the ending not the staff members</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lolzzzz!!!</p>
<p>#1 taniguichi is the genius behind series, he nvr confirmed it<br />
#2 the people who played the cast i cant blame em, but if ur gonna take the word of the fuck ass holes who screwed tanigiuchi&#8217;s vision and even f***** up R2 then all yall haters nvr truly got the show</p>
<p>ps i think taniguichi did this to redeem the rushed ending making this an ambigous ending that if no further plans come<br />
YOU choose the ending not the staff members</p>
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		<title>By: asdasd</title>
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		<dc:creator>asdasd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 09:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[b]i think this is gay [/b]</description>
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		<title>By: the zohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>the zohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/12/an-e-mail-reply-what-i-believe-regarding-lelouchs-life/

battle rages on</description>
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<p>battle rages on</p>
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		<title>By: JustAnotherCGFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustAnotherCGFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 06:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This can&#039;t dieeee!  I&#039;m too lazy to find somewhere with a large concentration of Code Geass fans!

But if you can point the way to one for me I&#039;d be happy and shut up &lt;..&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This can&#8217;t dieeee!  I&#8217;m too lazy to find somewhere with a large concentration of Code Geass fans!</p>
<p>But if you can point the way to one for me I&#8217;d be happy and shut up &lt;..&gt;</p>
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