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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/12/toradora-11-the-fatherless-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-99193</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you cry over silly shows and yet never spared a tear when I spilled my pain in front of you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you cry over silly shows and yet never spared a tear when I spilled my pain in front of you?</p>
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		<title>By: qwert</title>
		<link>http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/12/toradora-11-the-fatherless-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-98846</link>
		<dc:creator>qwert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys/girls, does this show improve after episode 7 at all?  I started watching it because I read Mike and others comparing it to Honey and Clover.  I&#039;ve watched 7 episodes and I see absolutely no resemblance.  This doesn&#039;t seem much different from typical anime of this type in my opinion, predictable, flat characters of different cliche types, fan titillation (the mother), and the &quot;emotional&quot; moments are shallow at best....

Is it a case of, &quot;if you don&#039;t like it by now, you won&#039;t like it later&quot; or is there any significant &quot;change&quot; after episode 7?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys/girls, does this show improve after episode 7 at all?  I started watching it because I read Mike and others comparing it to Honey and Clover.  I&#8217;ve watched 7 episodes and I see absolutely no resemblance.  This doesn&#8217;t seem much different from typical anime of this type in my opinion, predictable, flat characters of different cliche types, fan titillation (the mother), and the &#8220;emotional&#8221; moments are shallow at best&#8230;.</p>
<p>Is it a case of, &#8220;if you don&#8217;t like it by now, you won&#8217;t like it later&#8221; or is there any significant &#8220;change&#8221; after episode 7?</p>
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		<title>By: Jii~ &#187; Blog Archive &#187; In light of my blog having yet to be deleted&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/12/toradora-11-the-fatherless-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-98831</link>
		<dc:creator>Jii~ &#187; Blog Archive &#187; In light of my blog having yet to be deleted&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my dear friend Mike of anime&#124;otaku has been quite prolific about his enjoyment of Toradora!, I&#8217;d like to give my own [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my dear friend Mike of anime|otaku has been quite prolific about his enjoyment of Toradora!, I&#8217;d like to give my own [...]</p>
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		<title>By: korosora</title>
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		<dc:creator>korosora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, although I also felt the strong, complex emotions conveyed at the end of the episode, my reaction was not as strong as yours. Mike, would you like to talk about YOUR father? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, although I also felt the strong, complex emotions conveyed at the end of the episode, my reaction was not as strong as yours. Mike, would you like to talk about YOUR father? <img src='http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2008/12/toradora-11-the-fatherless-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-98644</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t be brought to write or construct elaborate thoughts on Toradora because I always think that something amazing is about to come to light. It never really does but that&#039;s alright. I know there&#039;s more to her dad than we know. 

There&#039;s no smoke without a fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t be brought to write or construct elaborate thoughts on Toradora because I always think that something amazing is about to come to light. It never really does but that&#8217;s alright. I know there&#8217;s more to her dad than we know. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no smoke without a fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Shiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even with the touching reunion, I still can&#039;t forgive Taiga for all she&#039;s done to Ryuuji so far (and to her dad although she reconciled already), and I already had a &quot;polished blade&quot; for that. Another &quot;polished blade&quot; was reserved for Ami, though.

I will have to wait until the anime finishes novels 7 and 8 for me to be able to forgive her, though.

RP-like mannerism aside, this episode didn&#039;t really bring much to me anyway. Maybe I will have to see when the school fest actually takes place to see some awesome stuff happening, perhaps. But still I LOL at the fact that the man we were previewed at in the previous episode is Taiga&#039;s dad, and his mannerism didn&#039;t show at all that he&#039;s bad and even if he did something terrible he already repented by the time he was introduced to us the viewers. Got to love one point of conversation in the novels in which he and Ryuuji shared the same interest in interior designing. Haha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even with the touching reunion, I still can&#8217;t forgive Taiga for all she&#8217;s done to Ryuuji so far (and to her dad although she reconciled already), and I already had a &#8220;polished blade&#8221; for that. Another &#8220;polished blade&#8221; was reserved for Ami, though.</p>
<p>I will have to wait until the anime finishes novels 7 and 8 for me to be able to forgive her, though.</p>
<p>RP-like mannerism aside, this episode didn&#8217;t really bring much to me anyway. Maybe I will have to see when the school fest actually takes place to see some awesome stuff happening, perhaps. But still I LOL at the fact that the man we were previewed at in the previous episode is Taiga&#8217;s dad, and his mannerism didn&#8217;t show at all that he&#8217;s bad and even if he did something terrible he already repented by the time he was introduced to us the viewers. Got to love one point of conversation in the novels in which he and Ryuuji shared the same interest in interior designing. Haha!</p>
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		<title>By: Cyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man now I&#039;m proud to say I was there for ToraDora long before any of you bastards. I was watching the trailers for it&#039;s upcoming debut and going &quot;I can&#039;t wait!&quot; while you guys were like &quot;ToraDora? Probbly just another one of those cliche tsunderes. Yes I&#039;m proud to say I was reading the light novel almost a year before most of you ever heard of ToraDora.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man now I&#8217;m proud to say I was there for ToraDora long before any of you bastards. I was watching the trailers for it&#8217;s upcoming debut and going &#8220;I can&#8217;t wait!&#8221; while you guys were like &#8220;ToraDora? Probbly just another one of those cliche tsunderes. Yes I&#8217;m proud to say I was reading the light novel almost a year before most of you ever heard of ToraDora.</p>
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		<title>By: lelangir</title>
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		<dc:creator>lelangir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed this one so much more than 10....infinitely more cathartic, bawwwwww ultimate qq tt ;_;

But yeah, the parallels between fathers was brilliantly done IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this one so much more than 10&#8230;.infinitely more cathartic, bawwwwww ultimate qq tt ;_;</p>
<p>But yeah, the parallels between fathers was brilliantly done IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very strong end of the episode. I really enjoyed the episode more than others for those last few minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very strong end of the episode. I really enjoyed the episode more than others for those last few minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: ALTIMIT</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALTIMIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end Taiga said something quite interesting however: &quot;it&#039;s a good thing (talk to her father), I&#039;ll try to think of it that way, I&#039;m not sure if I can really think of it that way, but because you said so so I&#039;ll try&quot; 
I do agree that she understood Ryuuji to some extend, but to me it implies that her action also caused by the parent figure, that is Ryuuji told her to do so.
Also, may be you said the same thing but it appears to me that Ryuuji could not throw away the father in his feeling, whom he claimed unneeded,  and forces his ego onto Taiga in the form of his outburst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end Taiga said something quite interesting however: &#8220;it&#8217;s a good thing (talk to her father), I&#8217;ll try to think of it that way, I&#8217;m not sure if I can really think of it that way, but because you said so so I&#8217;ll try&#8221;<br />
I do agree that she understood Ryuuji to some extend, but to me it implies that her action also caused by the parent figure, that is Ryuuji told her to do so.<br />
Also, may be you said the same thing but it appears to me that Ryuuji could not throw away the father in his feeling, whom he claimed unneeded,  and forces his ego onto Taiga in the form of his outburst.</p>
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