Facts are something undebatable. Actually, the best way of proving any points is through facts: whenever people say Haruhi Suzumiya is a good anime technically, they have the video and the quality to prove it, and I would agree with them, because it is both factual and correct. Taste is a matter of opinion, and opinion is different with every person. That’s actually where contention arises.

Ryan:

That’s practically why there is disagreement. It’s hard to fit one’s opinions into another’s ‘container.’ I’m watching a lot of series this season, but my favorites are Eden of the East and Cross Game. Man, Mitsuru Adachi is awesome … damn.

Sorrow-kun:

Yes, I understand that there has to be some ideal, because otherwise it’s all just going to go to shit. I do understand what you mean.

zeroj:

I already graduated.

WTF I’m not old. Yet.

C.C:

<3

Heh, all I do is have fun with chat rooms, but I do understand the fundamental difference of opinion among all people.

ALSO:

I DON’T HAVE INTERNET DAMN IT I CAN’T POST WELL RIGHT NOW FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Oh well. I’m following up stuff before entering medical school, so I can’t really sit down and think about posts right now. See you all later!

I’m really glad someone sees it the same way I do, it is rather frustrating at times when people don’t consider the natural differences between two opinions. I’d say more but I must catch some sleep, I may possibly comment again later if I get the chance!

@ zeroj; mike isn’t old wtf.

this explains so much things like why you like toradora… BECAUSE UR OLD

I’m not really in the right frame of mind to draw up a comprehensive argument on taste at this minute, but I do think that, whether or not true “objectivity” exists (and I daresay it probably doesn’t, since it implies a separation of the human and human nature), it is an ideal worth aspiring to, as far as a judgemental set of criteria is concerned. Because, if we judge things purely on the subjective, then it’s easy enough to come to the conclusion that something like Mushishi is just as worthwhile as something like To Love-Ru if you happened to find them equally enjoyable, even though Mushishi contains observable qualities that transcend simply enjoyment. That kind of thinking makes me nervous.

Interestingly, this is something I don’t see often. A fundamental attraction (fantastic), even if it may have been a bad judging of book-to-cover. Seriously tough reading if you ask me, since most of the stuff I read aren’t literary but mathematic/scientific proofs/papers, which are for the most part, finite in meaning.

Subjectivity is innate, I agree. How he perceives a text is grounded in the texts that he has encountered before. But isn’t this what we strive to avoid? As difficult as it may be, does starting with a blank slate towards a work yield a different experience? hmmm, or a variance in subjectivity? Not sure if you’ve seen anything on the new season, but a certain series was getting major compare/contrast to a previous series, but I (along with TheBigN) found it rather silly because it was c/c needing forcing to fit the container… given it’s not as offending with media….

Now fitting persons in light of another… sadly, the power of loss and emotion is difficult to contain.

It is interesting to ponder ^_^ Thanks for the writeup. Cheers Mike!

@J, perhaps your brother hates it because you love it? It happens… not just with media.

Nobody but me really understands my love of Osamu Tezuka manga and anime where I live, but then again nobody understands why Dragon Ball: Origins is far more justified in being controversial than Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars.

And nobody likes Hyakko quite like me… and my brother will never understand why I love anime because he hates it…