C – 10: the Ouroboros, the Magician, and even benzene

I know very well that the few hundreds of pages of philosophy I’ve read does not make me a philosopher. I have much praise, thus, for Simone for explaining certain philosophical concepts, including the Aristotelian entelechy I’ve talked about the previous episode, very well to a novice like me. I did put in a lot of time and effort to read those essays and books; philosophy, however, is not my passion and I do not study it as much as others. I am grateful for his presence in developing my primitive philosophical interpretations.

With that said, I feel that the tenth episode is merely a continuance of the previous episode with regard to philosopy: for Simone, Kimimaro has finally crossed over into the realm of the aut-aut; for me, he’s simply had a pivotal catharsis. It may not be an existential question, but it is a catharsis nevertheless. I feel that the pursuance of philosophy during this episode would be redundant, although if Simone offers his commentary I would be sure to include it in succeeding posts, seeing that his work is well-thought of and enlightened.

For this episode, I am going to stick with what works best for me, and what I know best of all: I’ll return to symbols and their interpretations. This episode is unique in the sense that it has gone beyond mere tarot symbols and integrated different religions into a single picture.

Msyu’s macroflation, Overheated Economy, actually depicts Shiva, who is the Hindu deity of transformation and destruction. It’s simply apt, especially because Msyu was out to destroy with that macroflation. Shiva holds the Sommerfeld model of the atom in his four hands, and the Wheel of Fortune in two. Simply put, it depicts Shiva’s ability to both create and destroy: in some senses, he is fate himself. Kimimaro is also trying to take fate into his own hands – it’s quite apt.

Ace of Pentacles

In Jennifer’s Mergers and Acquisitions macroflation attack, the most telling symbol is the sole pentacle at the middle of the illustration. Quoting SuperTarot, the Ace of Pentacles creates new conditions for material success; it is a gift of money. Through this flation she was able to obtain Kakazuzu, Mikuni’s asset, from him. Although she ultimately failed, the imagery is once again apt to the foreground occurrrence.


Cannibalization was clearly symbolized by the Ouroboros, which is a snake eating itself. It illustrates a cycle, but also presents an idea of eternity, due to its circular nature. It can be seen in the tarot card of The Magician, where the eponymous character wears it as a belt. I find that similarities between Mikuni’s stance with what the card represents: the card signifies the divine nature in man, which is what Mikuni shows by eschewing his own future so that the present may survive.

It’s also funny how this symbol inspired a certain von Kekule to device the structure of the benzene ring. Without an Ouroboros in his dream, he wouldn’t have done it. 🙂

Finally, but of course, not the least of all, the viewer sees that Jennifer’s sephira are all shining as compared to only the Keter (the crown)shining during the previous episode. This merely symbolizes that she has achieved a higher level of understanding, which is very much seen in this episode: after having decided to act for the sake of the future, she faces Mikuni without any regrets despite being defeated with Q’s rampage. Her enlightenment culminated in her sacrifice for the sake of other people’s futures.

Yes, this episode was awesome, but I really have little more to say about it.

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15 Responses to “C – 10: the Ouroboros, the Magician, and even benzene”

  1. zhurai Says:

    I posted a writeup in your last post, and then I went to sleep, woke up and saw this

    sorry it’s a bit long, but a lot of it is a summary/writeup of what happened in the episode from what I know of japanese (withhout looking at the subtitles, which while I was writing it, they didn’t have it done yet)

  2. zhurai Says:

    (read what I said at the beginning/ part 1 of the post at least of what I thought about the names, and etc…)

    hmmm…though apparently what I thought about America was wrong. :/ but yeah, they are doing fine, apparently C is coming back to Japan.

    I was pretty good about them trying to reverse it by beating him (and that the only card able to use the rotary press/what I called the “Deal with the Devil”)
    — Ah, so they were actually TRYING to cause superinflation so that the value of the midas money will be less useful, and in turn, (I would say) the super entre, Mikuni would be weaker.
    apparently I was wrong about leaving the guild, though I guess you’ll have to, in order to do that anyhow
    – I was right about the discussion between kimimaro and his asset
    – not sure if 1361 pincode is anything significant
    – Oh right now that I think of it, yeah, the 2nd part does say “Switch to the dollar” given that it says uses just yen in the first one, 😐 stupid 3am!
    – I’m right about the exchange between kimimaro and his asset (that the future IS the asset)
    – please look at the stuff I wrote/looked up, overheated economy is an actual economic term…
    – I was right, lost, and then sold the asset to kimimaro, and was ALMOST there at looking at what their exchange was
    — still trying to gather funds….. but isn’t the value of the yen now completely useless?
    – and was right to some degree (except I didn’t know you can REVERSE it)

    interestingly he’s trying to add MORE MONEY into an already hyperinflation-induced economy, which obviously isn’t going to do much (o_O)….or rather it’ll make it worse.

  3. Michael Says:

    I think Taketazaki is bound to make it worse so that it will weaken Mikuni’s power over the guild. And yes, I will read your previous write-up. Thank you very much for your comments!

  4. zhurai Says:

    hmm weiiiiiird I had some text that I wrote about the darkness card and the actual story but it went away for some reason… oh well here it is

    After I talked about the darkness card and how I thought it looked like…
    (since I don’t have original text, I’m paraphrasing what I wrote (o_O)
    Mashu = “evil presence” if you plug that into the dictionary
    Q = actually SOUNDS like 9 in japanese (kyuu) which apparently according to wikipedia… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_(number)#Japanese_culture ignoring the touhou bulletpoint, which this most likely isn’t refering to…

    “The Japanese consider 9 to be unlucky because it sounds similar to the Japanese word for “pain” or “distress” (苦 kunrei ku)[citation needed].”


    then I went onto the episode and said that america adverted C (because of their superentre’s, which I assumed the only (or so) one in Japan’s was Mikuni)

    Mikuni then continues to exchange more of the future for money, and satou runs out


    and apparently my spoiler alert was snipped from that text as well…… oh well 😐

    since I don’t know the real name of it, and “rotary press/printing press” is kinda…meh to say, my “nickname” for it (as the Deal with the Devil) is quite fitting now that I think of it……..


  5. wanbe Says:

    >Q = actually SOUNDS like 9 in japanese (kyuu)
    sorry for interrupting, but after watching ep.10 I was convinced that Q refers to “kuu” (喰う, Japanese for ‘devour’), although it sounds a bit different, but all that cannibalization stuff…
    btw cannibalization is also a marketing term, one can be constantly inspired by all that naming I guess…

  6. zhurai Says:


    well I guess, but kyuu also makes sense because there is “pain”/distress in mikuni’s future….. the fact he’s taking away his future, as well as Q looks like his vegetative sister, who well….. prob was suffering too?

    Also if you look at http://www.noitamina-control.jp/03chara/index.html

    Q – キュー – Kyu-

    but it IS interesting that “kuu” = devour, and Q’s pronunciation is quite similar to that/etc.

    and I already noted that cannibalization is a marketing term, noted that in my very very long writeup in the previous article comments (c-9’s one though) (same with “overheated economy” and “mergers and acquisitions”)

  7. wanbe Says:

    oh I noticed that after writing a comment, I read all your comments and, seriously, you’re amazing!
    I really love this blog and I loved your comments too, so much to think about…
    if we are provided by the authors with the meaning of ticker symbols on Midas cards, I hope, Q’s name will make more sense. or it would still be a part of [QFWK] printing…

  8. Michael Says:

    zhurai and wanbe:

    Those were good catches with the permutations of Q. I’m not too familiar with ‘kuu,’ although it’s certainly apt for Q’s character. Thanks for the comments!

  9. zhurai Says:

    As I have said in my last comment the “pronunciation” // official name (by the producers/etc) *is* “キュー” where the “Japanese Pronunciation” of the characters are, which is indeed pronounced as Kyuu (the ー = another u in this case of course, basic katakana)

    and Kyuu = 9 in japanese, though by having Kuu also being devour.. (with her flation attack) is quite interesting.


    About Mashu, if you just NORMALLY search for her name, it does come up with what I said (evil presence)
    however, if you use the kanji her name was given with (compared to Q, who had no “Japanese Name”…just Q, with “キュー” as the pronunciation)…

    from the official site:
    真朱 (ましゅ)

    Katakana usage is normally used for foreigners or for “non japanese” introduced things/etc/whatever, where as Japanese People (and places…) use kanji+hiragana. It’s very very interesting that they put for mashu hiragana/kanji as the representation rather than Katakana (like Q)

    Also I searched up the kanji meanings for her “name” in japanese -> 真 and

  10. zhurai Says:

    dang, I accidently clicked submit….. Fail.

    Well as I was saying…
    真 and 朱 -> the first meaning

    真 (shin)
    1: truth; reality; genuineness;
    2: seriousness;
    3: (Noun) logical TRUE;
    4: printed style writing;
    5: (Abbreviation) star performer

    1: scarlet; red;
    2: blood

    Mashu = Red Truth/Red Reality ? (blood doesn’t make too much sense, given she has no blood related powers, but red does….fire? anyone?)

    …ok back to katakana vs kanji…

    also looking at his teacher’s profile, which has an image of him in the entre db http://soulcontrol.wikia.com/index.php?title=Ebara_Daisuke&image=x1307030360118-jpg

    I’m guessing usually the name of the assets are actually in katakana (like “Keel”….. キール in that image, look above the stock symbol), but her’s is different, it’s in Kanji/Hiragana, not Katakana.

  11. zhurai Says:

    aaaaaand 3rd post since I’d think it’s a better idea to talk about c ep 10 in the c-10 post ^_^

    About the cards (“Darkness being given to kimimaro”)

    In my opinion, the entry/gold/platnium/darkness cards are given to people when they get that high (like when he beat the platnium crazy-dude from the guild, and pushed him into bankrupcy, the ONLY weird part that I still don’t get, is AFTER he beat him, his “balance sheet” grew to insane lengths, and then when we next two times we see the card (after mashu is tired, while he’s buying *all* the stocks of satou’s asset, George) it still looked like the entre level card (not gold, plat, or darkness), AFTER she bought the stocks it seemed to go from entry level -> darkness

    I mean he completely beat a plat level entre (crazy) but still retained the entry level entre card, and then after he bought a Gold level entre’s stock he finally became darkness? What? Might be so that when he first looked at the card/while he was doing those stuff, he didn’t notice that it became at *least* gold or plat after he beat the plat entre? I’m not entirely sure… but that might be the best thought about it…. but yeah.

  12. Michael Says:


    You’ve made good catches with the words. If Kimimaro thinks of Mashu as his reality (his future), then red reality isn’t too far off, is it?

    Georges may have been the asset that pushed him over the top to become Darkness. I think it has something to do with the assets. Mikuni has more than one, and Kimimaro has more than one, too.

  13. zhurai Says:

    it’s also interesting that Mashu’s name is specifically in kanji, rather than katakana, as katakana makes the asset seem…. more like “just an asset” a tool (or thing), but in this case, it’s like the producers (+ characters?) are treating Mashu way more than that….. similar to a human in the katakana vs hiragana/kanji comparison.

    And i guess so, but I wonder why the card (after bankrupting the crazy guy) stayed as an entry level card, rather than being promoted (As I would THINK at least) to a gold card or platnium card, rather than staying “at level 1”, but my semi theory behind all this is also that he didn’t actually pay attention to the card, and how it looked (either that, or the producers overlooked it, which given everything…prob. isnt the case), and thus, to us viewers, it seems like even after that battle, he was still had just an entry level card. (even though if you look at his balance sheet right after the deal closed between the platnium crazy guy, you see it grow HUGE)

  14. Michael Says:

    He probably didn’t pay attention, but the bloating of his money was immense … so I guess you’ve got a good point there.

  15. zhurai Says:

    Oh on an entirely different note, I see the colors are based on the CMYK color model, but what…. exactly does each of those mean (like what does cyan (or whatever) represent)?

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