2 true i cant prove that he has a code(but you cant prove he dosent etheir) since we dont know enough about the regeneration of imortals wich will end this in a stalemate

the cc/lelouch isnt entirly fanmade (at least i dont think so) since when she fought aginst karen karen said “Dose that mean you love lelouch” and her response was “um…im not sure”(word vary a little becuase of subs the 1st time i saw it it said “i dont know” but the meaning stays the same) now here how i interped it she wouldent know what love since her geass was to be loved and she used it on everyone so she never knew what real love is and on top of that she was alone for a long time so i think she loved him (or at least really liked him)but wouldent know the emotion so she couldent say no butshe felt something but didnt reconize it so one of the more likly answers would be “i dont know” or “im not sure”

by responding to my 1st post YOU took the position of the person who must prove ME wrong not the other way around
however i dont think you have ANY evidence that hes dead

3(new) just thought of something cc never wished for wrold peace that was lelouches dream so she could care less if everyone got along but do you think that she would stay immortail alone through thousands more year just becuase she loved him(and to you who thinks she dosent love him there would be no reason) i dont think so i think that if only one could be immortail she would chose him and she could almost happly die however she was there in the end so wouldent the most likly end be that they are together

1 – Which means that this one is a stalmate too since both of us are unable to prove anything at all.

2 – “if lelouch has a code and he dose (the one he got from his father)” this is exactly what you have to prove (which you to this date hasen’t been able to).

And tbh, the Lelouch/CC pairing is just fanmade and isen’t mentioned anywhere, aswell as Lelouch paired with anyone else (including Kallen:( ), which means that “and is it really a curse if you get to live with the preson you love forever” isen’t relevant at all.

“but he wasnt in solitude since he had cc” again this is what you have to prove.

I don’t really have to present any evidence at all since you’re the one who’s going against the current storyline, it’s YOU who has to prove to ME that he is alive.

PS: I have to apologize for all grammar mistakes, I have a bad flue and seems to have lost my ability to write properlyQQ

I would be the first to admit that one of the reasons why she acts so slowly with regard to Lawrence is due to her age and agelessness. She has experienced much in her life, and Lawrence’s appearance as well as his being her complement does not come easy for her. That was the predominant image in the first episode of the first season: she knows that it would be too soon when Lawrence will pass away from this world.

From my perspective, however, it seems as if she is merely toying around with Lawrence, who, as we have clearly seen, is willing to give up basically his entire previous raison d’etre just to be with Horo. She treasures his goodness, his kindness, and his existence (that much is undeniable), but she is unwilling to be snagged by the corresponding tragedy that every human being will ultimately face, which is death. This is quite unlike other prominent protagonists like Arcueid, and one can even see a being similar to Horo who has taken the risk of loving another human being despite being a demigod in Dian.

It is all a matter of choice, and not loving, at least in my humble opinion, is tantamount to cowardice. Comparing it to a reality, it’s as if a guy chooses to have sex with a girl he knows loves him but does not want any commitment or any responsibility for his actions. I feel as if that is what Horo’s currently doing to Lawrence. What makes Arcueid currently more heroic than Horo was that she knew both her and Shiki’s love were doomed, but she chose to love him anyway.

Of course it may be the mechanism of the author to prolong the story and make a little more cash from his highly successful franchise. My point is that tragedy is ultimately inevitable because every human being dies. I would just rather for Horo to choose to fight than cower just because she does not want to get hurt. Lawrence went to hell and back for her; I think it’s little repayment just to say that she loves him as well. Even if it will hurt later. Even if he will die. Even if it’s ultimately tragic.

But part of this is also undoubtedly the author’s own sense of “save some of that for the sequel”; wanting the readers to idolize Horo, so not mess with what they like about her personality, and identify with the development in Lawrence. The first two novels (covered in the first season) are usually written with some uncertainty over how long this story will last. Not that we’re getting into novels 3 & 5, he knows he’s in it for the long haul, so keeping Horo and the overall situation kind of static, while moving the plot forward in other ways, leaves the door open for future novels and gives readers something to look forward to.

So basically, I think you’re right that, despite all of Lawrence’s sacrifices, she’s hasn’t totally opened up to him and accepted his feelings for her. At the same time, I think the author is saving that sort of development for later in the story, so until then things will remain as is and Lawrence will just have to put up with it (though I’m sure this will frustrate him eventually — a key plot point I’m sure). Save some of that for the sequel! :p

Last season, Lawrence was purely a merchant at the beginning. But as he and Horo traveled together he also started to care more for others, especially Horo. That was evident enough when he was willing to be hurt just to protect Horo. Whereas he continued his progression, and ultimately represented the climax of the second season, Horo remained to be the playful, flirtatious, yet kind wolf. Nothing much changed from the first season. Lawrence already realized he needed Horo the previous season. The second season was merely a crystallization of his transformation from mere merchant to caring and concerned human being. He had already sacrificed everything for Horo.

Even if she was afraid … I don’t think what he had done should be taken lightly. That’s the thing.

I totally agree with the fact that Horo did little to no development this season. However last season it was Lawrence who had minimal development. In the first season, Horo’s mindset changed from being a travelling companion to a dear friend and possibly lover, something that the episode 0 OVA highlighted. Last season was about the change of Horo’s views. This season was far more about Lawrence realising how much Horo trusted him and how much he needed Horo himself. It’s a bit of an odd approach to story-telling but I think it works.

LUCCism’s defense for Lelouch’s immortality is among the best I’ve ever seen. Now I actually feel slightly more inclined to believe that Lelouch is alive—but even if he is, it means we have to accept the fact that he’s living the high life with C.C., which is simply awful. Lulu and Suzaku were meant to be together forever. :p Which is why I don’t like that pic.

Word came from the directors that Lelouch is dead. But anyone can see that the finale was ambiguous and affords ample space for speculation. At this point we’ll never be 100% sure, unfortunately. But I’m willing to take Michael’s suggestion and keep the love alive. ^_^; Also, I’ll be sticking to fanfiction. There’s plenty of love living there.

Hey, much thanks to Tioz for that Italian bit! And kudos to Baka-Raptor: “Get thee to a Nunne-Re;” is the most hilarious thing I’ve heard all week.

1 true but you just addmited i was right or at least that we cant conclude this argument by saying that “Still, this anime is an alterative future which mean that the laws of physics and everything else should be like IRL with the with the exception of Geass/Code” the code is what gives you immortality in this series so what you said could be said like this “Still, this anime is an alterative future which mean that the laws of physics and everything else should be like IRL with the exception of Geass/Code/Imortality.” (i left code on there since it also gives you the ability to give people geass)and since we dont know enough about the extent of the regenrative ability to know whether or not someone could regenreate from being desentregrated

2 and 3 so again we cant conclud this argument.

4 if lelouch has a code and he dose (the one he got from his father) she would not have to give him a code and is it really a curse if you get to live with the preson you love forever. true the pact was for her to die BUT did she ever set a time limit to when the pact had to be compleated so in theory she could have him compleate it a million years from then.yes he made himself a bad guy but he wasnt in solitude since he had cc

true it mite be weak but if you cant prove me wrong on the frist one what evidence do you have to support him being dead