Greetings Michael, first of all I would like to thank you for all the time and effort you gave in creating the Lelouch is alive blog, it definatly had an impact on the way people viewed the entire series. As we all know Okouchi made a few statements about Lelouch and his death. However there are many people who find some contradictions in his explanations for instance, the Nunnaly seeing through people’s hearts thing along with C.C.’s explanation. I think at the very least we should agree that the Nunnaly seeing through people’s hearts thing has been proven false in the first season and even in the second season it barely had any instances of that whatsoever. Besides, there is no way she can gain such an extraordinary power in a one year timeskip. As for C.C.’s explanation, Okouchi says “She talks about how the Geass is supposed to bring loneliness, yet Lelouch proves this wrong. With the knowledge that Lelouch does not hate her for giving him the Geass, she is now able to express her true feelings” Well, we all know C.C. never had a problem with expressing herself, she was miserable because she was lonely the entire time and now she’s happy that she’s all alone again? Seems far fetched to me. I could elaborate deeply on this topic but I won’t because Zongetsu and I explained it multiple times in your other blogs. Well anyways, I just want you to know that there are still many fans who support all the statements that you made in your Lulu alive blog despite what Okouchi’s words and they haven’t lost their conviction of Lulu being alive. I heard that you succumbed to the Lelouch dead camp, but I just want you to know that your statements have opened many doors and out of the ashes of your beliefs came a new blog which gives a thorough analysis of the entire series that correlates to Lelouch being alive. Here’s the link of the analysis http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=54714. Well thanks again for creating the blog, it enabled many people view this series from a different perspective and your efforts of creating the blog was not invane.
Someone e-mailed me regarding my beliefs in Code Geass; he (or she) is a consistent commentator of this blog, and I appreciate his comments, especially on the posts on debating whether Lelouch died or not. First and foremost, I’m an avid supporter of Lelouch being alive, even despite the fact that the ‘authors’ have claimed him as being dead.
‘The author is dead.’
We will make our own assumptions regarding what we saw or have seen, and in my heart of hearts I have faith that he is living. Otherwise, it will simply be far too tragic for me.
So, Geass101, thank you for the e-mail that you’ve sent me. I appreciate it, and (still) have faith that Lelouch is still alive.
I haven’t made much progress with regard to my anime watching. I have been doing my thesis for the past few days, and I also started reviewing for the medical admission test which is three weeks from now.
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There weren't any good manga in the convention :c
I wished there was a true kiss between them.
Well, I think this hammers another nail in Lelouch’s coffin:
I just want to point out that the official Geass-net mobile site explains in Nunnally’s profile that her blindness gives her the ability to see through the hearts of people just by touching their hands, and in the final episode she found out everything with said ability. Officially, that flashback scene had nothing to do with Lelouch and Codes.
C.C.’s profile has also been updated, and the final part of it now says: “Knowing that Lelouch does not hate her for giving him the Geass, she is now able to show her true feelings. With the realization of “Zero Requiem”, her time with Lelouch, who was able to forgive and accept her, came to an end, but the memories created with him has, without doubt, saved her from eternal loneliness.”
Having read this, C.C. appears to have been talking about herself when she said this line in the end: “The power of the king will isolate you… I guess it turned out a little different after all… right, Lelouch?”. The power of the king eventually leads to immortality (Code); C.C. had the power of the king and for a long time led a lonely existence, but she is now no longer lonely, thanks to her time with Lelouch.
Unless they update Lelouch’s profile with some kind of “but maybe he didn’t actually die” line, it seems to me that officially, Lelouch is 100% dead. None of the magazines seem to think the ending is at all ambiguous, and none of the staff and cast members seem to think so either. Okouchi, especially, appears to be pretty final about Lelouch’s death in his interview (“His life had not been in vain. That was why he smiled in the end”, along with his explanation as to why the punishment was necessary from the beginning). As for Taniguchi, he said only 2 things: (in the NewType interview itself) it’s up to the viewers whether they want to think of the ending as a Happy End or a Bad End. He thinks of it as a Happy End. As for what the epilogue meant, the viewers ought to work it out for themselves. The meaning behind C.C.’s final line appears to be part of what he wanted viewers to think about, though Geass-net’s already given us the answer to that. Lelouch’s fate, is, IMO, not part of what he wanted viewers to think about, because as far as the staff members are concerned Lelouch’s fate wasn’t at all ambiguous.
By the way, Shimomura Takaharu, one of the staff members involved with advertising, wrote in his “Parting message to Lelouch” (from Animedia):
“Let’s all go to the World of C” (For more details, refer to the R2 drama CDs)
Looks like SE6 will feature a track about everyone going to the World of C.
Tomikawa Kiyoharu (Production Desk) has this to say to Lelouch:
“Rest in peace. I’m begging you, please don’t come back ever again. (The animating process was just too much trouble!)”
Most of the staff members’ parting messages for Lelouch are pretty hilarious, and are in keeping with the Geass sense of humour.
The quote was taken from Celiss Galvea, among the most trusted translators of Code Geass information on the web.
Knowing more and more about the ultimate fate of Lelouch brings me closer to accept that Geass has finally ended. My only misgiving is that CC and Lelouch never really had a true kiss between themselves: I don’t mind if his ultimate fate is death, but I would want something to have happened before he passed away. I simply wish that, if ever there is going to be an OVA, they’d at least clarify Lelouch’s dedication and love for CC and vice versa.
See you space cowboy.
P.S. Taken from Zetsubun (thanks!)
From massive section dedicated to Geass in â€œContinueâ€ volume 47:
Lelouchâ€™s name is on the â€˜deceasedâ€™ list. ;/
â€”â€“Congratulations on the completion of â€œCode Geassâ€!! It was a shocking final episode; did you have a difficult time writing it, Mr. Okouchi?
Okouchi: â€œNo. The last episode wasnâ€™t difficult at all; in fact, it was the middle parts of R2 that turned out to be rough going. For the final episode, [I’d/we’d] already decided on the ending when writing the script for the first episode of the previous series. Episode 1, Episode 25 (Episode 1 and the final episode of the previous series) and episode 25 of R2 â€” these episodes did not deviate much from our original plans.â€
â€”â€“â€Some unresolved mysteries still remain.â€
Okouchi: â€œFrom the very beginning, [I/we] never planned on explaining everything. In fact, if you ask me, I think we might have overdone the explanations. While itâ€™s undeniable that Lelouchâ€™s story has ended with a full stop, the other charactersâ€™ stories are still on-going, and itâ€™s not like the world [of Code Geass] itself has come to an end either. [I/we] didnâ€™t want to end it by closing it up for good.â€
â€”â€“â€Still, isnâ€™t it possible that defeating the wise ruler Schneizel, the person who was supposed to have brought order to the world, might lead to some [viewers] interpreting it as a Bad End?â€
Okouchi: â€œThatâ€™s true. There are probably a lot of people who think of it as a Bad End, a tragedy, considering the protagonistâ€™s, Lelouchâ€™s end as well. However, Lelouch says in the first episode: â€œOnly those prepared to be shot are allowed to pull the trigger themselves.â€ If you were to think of that as his pride, then I think his getting shot (killed) in the end was a logical end. Of course, I understand that not all of the viewers will accept this ending. There were people who wanted a happier ending, after all.â€
â€”â€“â€Was there a dispute among the staff members regarding the ending?â€
Okouchi: â€œNo. It was decided fairly naturally. During the â€œCode Geassâ€ script meetings, there are many cases in which there were a number of disputes, but there were barely any when it came to the scripts for (the previous seriesâ€™s) episode 25 and the final episode. I think everyone felt the same when it came to the end of the character that is Lelouch.â€
â€”â€“â€Why were you so bold as to choose this ending when the viewers might see it as a Bad End?â€
Okouchi: â€œBoldâ€¦ yes, we were so bold as to chose this ending. Perhaps the show that is â€œCode Geassâ€ ending up this way was decided the moment Director Taniguchi and I teamed up. I suppose you can call it our sense of aesthetics, or perhaps a part of our psychological makeup.â€
Now, I didn’t originally think of this, but it made a lot of sense to me when I pieced the puzzle together with the help of /a/nons’ perceptions.
My take is that Lelouch is alive
The most obvious reason would be CC calling to Lelouch in the closing scene of the episode. As we can assume CC to be still sane, she must be talking to someone, and that someone would most probably be the driver of the cart: Lelouch would have to be alive.
Second, however, and this is where the others have thought things through, Lelouch is alive because he got his dad’s code. He beckoned the World of C to lend him its powers, and he took Charles’s code before Charles passed on. The reason why Lelouch still has his Geass is because he didn’t take the Code from the same person who gave him his Geass: he took his Geass from CC, and he took his Code from Charles. Thus, he now possesses both immortality and a Geass. This is also a reason that the title is Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion.
To further corroborate this, however, remember that when Nunnally held Lelouch’s hand he transferred his memories to her. CC also did it when Lelouch touched her accidentally back then, so it could be assumed that people with Codes are indeliberate telepaths. This leaves us with both immortals traversing the world for the rest of eternity.
It’s a great end, friends. 🙂
P.S. Ending line of CC translated by bibi: “Geass is the power of kings, it will isolate you… well, I guess thats a little wrong… eh, Lelouch”
P.P.S. Additional evidence, courtesy of `Nergal and 4chan:
1. Charles grabbed Lelouch with his right hand, which had the Geass sigil.
2. Lelouch needed the fully evolved Geass to transfer a code.
3. The code doesn’t appear to activate until someone dies. Hence, why C.C. was wounded when she first inherited her code. Same happened with Charles in the World of C.
4. When Lelouch touched Nunnally, Nunnally got a flash of his memories. This ONLY happens when a high potential Geass user touches someone with the fully evolved Geass.
5. The title of the series is “R2”, which is similar to how “C.C” is pronounced. So Lelouch would be “R.R.” which is Engrish (I presume) for L.L., Lelouch Lamprouge.
6. When C.C. is talking on the wagon, she says “the power of Geass brings loneliness…that’s not quite right is it, Lelouch?” and nods her head in the direction of the wagon driver.
P.P.P.S More evidence, courtesy of an intelligent anon from 4chan:
Orange knew of Lelouche’s and Suzaku’s plan and helped them out by ordering his men not to fire on Zero, he even smiled when Zerozaku jumped on his shoulder.
Now would Orange, a man who devoted himself entirely to Lelouche and threw away everything without a second thought be OK with a plan where the sole person he wants to protect in life is actually killed? The answer to that is NO, not even if Lelouche ordered him to accept the plan: he would not go along with it and would protect him with his life. There is only one way that Orange would be OK with a plan like that and thats if he knew about Lelouche’s immortality, which I assume he did as he worked with V.V. in the Geass research base. Orange was OK with this plan as he knew Lelouche would come to no harm and would be able to start a new peaceful life with the woman he loves in a world which he himself had made peaceful.
Even at the end, we see Orange on his orange plantation, completely content with the way things have panned out, he definitely could not be that happy had Lelouche actually died.
There it is, firm evidence of Lelouche’s immortality if the scene with C.C. and the cart driver wasn’t painfully obvious enough.
(I corrected a few spelling errors and run-ons, but preserved the original thought. It’s also quite convincing, if you ask me.)
I have a new theme, if that isn’t obvious yet. This is primarily because of mellow_bunny‘s efforts: he designed my new theme from scratch based on what I wanted. Since I wanted a theme based on the color violet or permutations of it, he dutifully created my theme based on that sole desire, which is what I have currently. I love this theme a lot more than the vanilla Chocolate Candy theme I had for two years. It truly gives some sort of personality to this blog of mine, and I’m happy about that: thank you very much, Michael.
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I am currently celebrating the gifts of a four-day weekend: aside from the regular weekend, there are also two consecutive holidays, thus the absence of classes. It has been quite some time since I have been able to enjoy free time such as this: because of the break, I have been able to pick up on my reading and watching anime.
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Iâ€™m very sure that no one delights in disease or sickness unless oneâ€™s a crackpot, which I assume no one reading this blog is. (My mind’s stoned right now, I think. I feel very high.)
Having said this, I realized that it is a boon when your mind and body are in a pyrexic, intense, and excited state with regard to writing. Perhaps the heat allows the nerves to conduct faster, I donâ€™t know. I totally understand why my professor said he loved Finnegans Wake back when he was sick with a high fever, though. As for me, I just notice that the words come out more freely. Like the madeleine found in Swannâ€™s Way, a reminiscence triggers the remembrance of another memory, and in this case I thought about Sethâ€™s post on You Have to Burn the Rope. Read the rest of this entry »